Monday, February 25, 2013

All Boys, All Blogged: February 26, 2013

Focus: What problems exist in F451's society, and how did they arise?

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1. Warm-up: Give me your toughest passages! Close reading a few of Bradbury's challenging pages

2. Fishbowl discussion #2: F451, pages 28-40

3. Debriefing today's discussion with the outer and inner circles

HW:
1. Start on your reading assignment for Thursday's fishbowl discussion.  Bring your annotations for the first two reading assignments to class tomorrow.

2. Read your banned book and bring it to class on Friday.

75 comments:

  1. Do the numbers the author always mentions have a pattern or represent something?

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    1. I think that the numbers represent the days that he has talked to clarice and they could also represent th nember of books and houses he has burned

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  2. The problems that are going on today in the book F451 is that everyone is not really connected and also the kids it seems like are kind of on there own and don't have much responsibility to have to handle and it is causing them in the end to die one way or another or just be in the edge of life and death and also everyone has almost become robot like and they just really don't have like a normal society like we do in today's society.

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  3. Does Clarrisse not have parents? I only see her talking about her uncle.

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  4. Why did the lady sitting on the porch light herself on fire?

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    1. I think because she knew that the society was messed up and if her books had to go then she wanted to go.

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  5. When Clarisse rubs the dandelion under Montag's chin and no pollen comes off, she says that means he is not in love. So does Montag still love Mildred?

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  6. Why is it so bad for people to think freely? Even if people thought bad about the government why is it a big deal?

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  7. Will Montag questioning his job lead to other things like questioning the government and why the laws are there?

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  8. What is the purpose of constantly repeating things? I am failing to see any symbolism.

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  9. Why is it bad to have people think on there own,are they afraid they will soon over take the government?

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  10. Will Montag go against the government because of reading the books?

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  11. What does antisocial mean? what does it mean in the society of fahrenheit 451?

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  12. Is there more violence then than there is now?

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  13. What would happen if you were found with a book?

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  14. How does the mechanical dog threaten him?

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  15. Does Montag know how to read or is he just collecting the books for some reason?

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    1. I think he has either taught himself to read or wants to teach himself to read.

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  16. Since Clarisse is so jumpy and energetic and she is talking to a fireman which isn't the smartest choice, I'm wondering does she have some sort of mental disability?

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  17. Why does montag hide a book "With out thinking about it."

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  18. What do you think Montag and the rest of the firemen were thinking on the way back from the lady that burned herself with the books?

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  19. do you think people are scared of the thought of fire?

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  20. What does Clarisse say people talk about?

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  21. Do you think the book so far represents the way we are in our society today on how we act towards books as teens and how this going foward into the future hatred towards books escilated into burning them?

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  22. Why do montag and Mildred have separate beds?

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  23. why do you think montag is silent on the ride back after seeing the woman burn her self? are they that desensitized?

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  24. On page 33 it says "Had he ever seen a fireman that didn't have black hair, black brows, a fiery face, and a blue steel shaved but unshaved look? These men were all mirror images of himself!" Do the firemen have to look alike to become a firemen? Are there qualifications to being one?

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  25. Do you think Montag will get caught with the books?

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  26. Page 29, "Let's talk about something else. Have you ever smelled old leaves? Don't they smell like cinnamon? Here. Smell." Why would this be in her mind? What makes her think of this and why is it so randomly placed?

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  27. Did the women that lit herself on fire do it for beliefs or just because she was crazy?

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    1. Maybe because if she can't have her books she does not want to live.

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  28. On page 33 Montag says "They took him off to the asylum." "He wasn't insane" Is the government doing something more to people than putting them in an asylum if they break the law?

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  29. Could the book cover be a man burning inside of a house with books?

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  30. Protestantism is one of the major divisions within Christianity. It has been defined as "any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth" and, more broadly, to mean Christianity outside "of an Orthodox or Catholic church".

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  31. On page 13 it says "The jet bombers going over and over". Why do people just ignore the bombers. I would assume anytime there was a military movement it catch the attention of the people.

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    1. A while back we read a article about desensitization I think this relates to it because people are used to hearing and seeing it.

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  32. During the card game at the fire station, how does the question that Montag asks contribute to the plot?

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  33. On page 34, it says, " Established, 1790, to burn English-influenced books in toe Colonies. first Fireman: Benjamin Franklin." This makes me wonder why the government is going to such an extent to change history in order to keep society the way it is. Why do they go to such extent to keep books and knowledge away from people? In this society I also wonder if they could handle the return or books. If all of the books came back at once, wouldn't people be overwhelmed with information and go against the government.

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  34. A good question that was asked int he fishbowl inner circle was what country was this in and also what there fighting for and why dose he not give all the info on when its going on

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  35. What year does this book take place? Do they have the technology and recources to start a revolution against the goverment.

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  36. Page 34, "Established 1790, to burn English-influenced books in the colonies. First Fireman. Benjamin Franklin." The reason they burned books back then was to gain independence from England. I still don't understand the purpose they are burning books now...?

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  37. "Why aren't you at school? I see you wandering around everyday."P.g 29) Why doesn't she really go to school, Is she really insane?

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  38. i like the question that Alex just asked. "Did Ray Bradbury write a book for the future about the future?'

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  39. Does Montag have any idea why the books were actually all banned?

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  40. Are there certain books that the government won't burn?

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    1. I think its anything that doesn't involve being creative or doing things to go against the government

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    2. I feel like the government probably has their own library that is personal, to save for the future and for history. So I think that every book that is in public they don't mind burning.

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  41. Page 33, "Montag blinked. Beatty was looking at him as if he were a museum statue. At any moment, Beatty might rise and walk about him, touching exploring his guilt and self-consciousness. Guilt? What guilt was that?" Are we seeing him feel guilty already? Is it possible he is going to change sides or quit being a fireman to save the books?

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  42. when he takes the book dose he only really do it because of clarissia or would have he done it anyway?

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  43. What is the significance of the refrain repeated by the woman whose house was burned? what did it mean? what is its effect on Montag?

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  44. On page 39 when the woman lights herself on fire "She opened the fingers of one hand slightly and in the palm of the hand was a single slender object. An ordinary kitchen match." -39. This is a strong connection between activist monks who lit themselves on fire to protest (self-immolation). It's really crazy how it was tied into this book just like in real life.
    -Matt Myers.

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  45. Did Bradbury write the book for a future dictator?

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    1. I don't think that was his initial purpose but it could become that.

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  46. What qualities does Clairese have that makes her different and a possible target for the government?

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  47. On page 33 Beatty said "Any man is insane who thinks he can fool the government and us. Everyone seems like they are brainwashed and books are so bad. Do they all except Montag really think it is that bad and he is insane for hiding books?

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  48. Where is this book going? The book talks about a war starting up and people slowly starting to question the government. I think that by the end of the book they will up rise and try to overthrow the government.

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  49. Why do they think it's insane to fool the government?

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    1. Its what they have been taught all their lives.

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  50. They have fire men that start fires, but do they have firefighters that stop fires from destroying houses?

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    1. On page 34 it says "I mean", he said, "in the old days, before homes were completely fireproofed." I don't think they need to fight fires anymore because they somehow managed to fireproof houses

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    2. They might, but they are not called firefighters. It says in the book that there was a myth about whether or not there were ever firefighters that did that. So there would not be any at that time.

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    4. I think that they will just let the fire burn since the dont think as fire as a bad thing.

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    5. bo because he said that houses have always been fire proof so there is no need for firefighters

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  51. Why do they let the government take control like they do? I would think if they tried doing that in today's society there would be "rebels" that disagree with the government and the government will be out numbered.

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    1. Because they are scared that they will be punished.

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    2. I think that's why they banned and burned all the books, So they wouldn't get any ideas to go against the government.

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  52. Do you think that Montag would have ever taken the book without meeting Clarisse? Why did he after meeting her?

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  53. If they are burning so many books, what about movies? do they 'burn' those also?

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    1. What about books made into movies?

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    3. Im pretty sure that they do not burn the movies as well because it symbolizes more when the burn books.

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