Wednesday, March 6, 2013

All Boys, All Blogged: March 7, 2013

Focus: How is Bradbury trying to persuade us to think carefully about our choices as a society?

1. Warm-up: A final piece of TCAP writing review

The prompt:  Recently, the Chicago public school system has been considering teaching sex education starting in kindergarten.  Write a letter to the Chicago school superintendent explaining whether or not you think this a good idea.

How would you approach this essay?

  • Compose a rough draft of an introduction that ends with a thesis that lays out your three main points. 
  • Then outline what each of those three body paragraphs would look like.  What specific examples could you bring into each body paragraph to prove your point?
  • Draft briefly how you would conclude this letter.


2. Fishbowl discussion: F451, pages 83-102

HW:
1. Work on your banned book persuasive speech (especially if you're going on Monday!)
2. Bring F451 to TCAP so that you can keep up with/get ahead on the reading.
3. Do your best on TCAP! Make me proud!

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  2. Did Faber want to control Montag? Do you think that he will do something evil?

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    1. I think that Faber would try to do something bad but Montag won,t be effected

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  3. Why doesn't Montag understand books?

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    1. He has never read one and he has been trained to only burn books, never read or think about them in any other way.

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    2. He hasn't had them in his life as much so it is more of an abstract object

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    3. It would be like an illiterate trying to read for the first time at his age.

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  4. How does the author portray Montag after he started to get mad during this section?

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  5. On page 82, Faber says, "It's not books you need, it's some of the things that once were in books." What do you think that this quote means to Montag?

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    1. Montag knows that books possess deeper meaning than the parlor or anything else can give him, and he wants to bring back the deeper thinking in his society. While Montag doesn't know what the books contain, he just knows that they hold what he wants and needs.

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  6. Why did Faber order Montag to take the escape route?

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  7. Why did they out law books in the first place?

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    1. The government wanted to control peoples imagination and take control over everyone.

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  8. On pg.89 Montag says, " Then you don't care anymore? I care so much I'm sick, says Faber." Why does Faber care about the books but is unwilling to help until Montag starts ripping the pages?

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  9. On page 83 a book is explained as if it were living. What is the purpose of taking books up to the point that it is living?

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  10. On page 98 when it says, "A silver needle pierced his brain" is this how the government completely takes control of someone?

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  11. Why was Mildred burning the books one by one when Montag hadn't read them yet?

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    1. I think that it was because she was scared that she would go to jail or worse for being found with books.

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    2. Mildred did not want to be arrested for reading books and was "dispersing the dynamite in her house, stick by stick" (Bradury102). Bradbury means that she was trying to get rid of anything dangerous, like TNT.

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  12. On page 96, Montag the women are discussing the last presidential election: "'I laid it on the line for President Noble. I think he's one of the nicest-looking men ever became president.' 'Oh, but the man they ran against him!' 'He wasn't much was he? Kind of small and homely and he didn't shave too close or comb his hair very well.'" Can the way this society elects presidents be related to elections in our own history? Why is it important that we understand the politics?

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    1. I think that elections today have to do a little with looks, but I think it more has to do with how you were raised, and that you have a tendency to vote for whoever your parents vote for. This has been true, especially for the past few elections. It is important to follow your own politics so that we can be apart of this world, and I doubt that this would change in the future.

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  13. What is the war about and will it affect just the normal civilians or would it more affect like the upper class people or the military?

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  14. Are the seashells that Faber is talking about really seashells?

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  15. what do you think the shells really are?

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  16. On page 94 it says "A minute later, Three White Cartoon Clowns chopped off each other's limbs to the accompaniment of immense incoming tides of laughter. Two minutes more and the room whipped out of town to the jet cars wildly circling in an arena.....Montag saw a number of bodies fly into the air." From this passage you can see that violence and death is normal in this society. Mildred even said that the show was wonderful. My idea is that in this society, people watch so much TV that it eventually became like a drug to them. They became numb to it and they started to need more and more action to get any excitement from the TV. I think also that this has affected their lives. They start to expect life to be as exciting as the TV and it just isn't so they start to live their strange repetitive lives only until they see something new on TV.

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  17. Pg. 90, "I'm the queen bee, safe in the hive." Why does Faber consider himself a queen bee when Montag is his only follower?

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  18. Does there society elect based on looks and personality and not be allowed to know what they voted for.

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  19. on page 84 Montag says, "only the family is people." When he revers to the family on t.v. he calls them people in this society you think they can tell the difference between reality and t.v. at this point?

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  20. Are these seashells somehow related to the ear pieces that we saw in the Harrison Bergeron story?

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  21. Jimmy talked about how their names sounded American though I've never heard anybody have the name Montag, Mildread or Faber so I think the author doesn't want us to know what country this book takes place in.

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  22. do you think they are still as brain washed as they were in the first part of the book? i think they arent because of all the laws being broken and the diffrent paths they are takeing

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  23. With the bible, when they started to burn books was it one that was purpously destroyer sooner along with like other religious scripts.

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  24. Can the mechanical hound smell books?

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  25. What is the Job a The mechanical Hound and why do they fear it?

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  26. Is there any chance that our current society could begin to turn to this?

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  27. How recent has this society became into place because a select few talk about how the olden days and how it used to be. Why doesn't everyone reminisce about the olden days?

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  28. on page 82 Montag says "Nobody listens any more. I cant talk to the walls because they're yelling at me. I cant talk to my wife; she listens to the walls." What does he mean the walls are yelling at me?

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  29. Why did Montag get so upset when the ladies were talking about how the voted in the last presidential election?

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  30. "Lets laugh and be happy now, stop crying,we'll have a party." Pg. 101 How are they so happy when they are breaking a law by reading books and says there is a war?

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    1. I think that they think that they are starting a new revolution instead of breaking a law.

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  31. On page 100-101 when montag reads the poem then gets yelled at by Mr. Bowles Montag says, "Go home and think of your first husband divorced and of your second husband killed in a jet and your third husband blowing his brains out....Before I knock you down and kick you out the door." How do you think Bowles will respond to Montags reaction. Will Bowles possibly report Montag?

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  32. How does there society deal with religion?

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    1. religion doesn't play a big part because there are no bibles to read.

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  33. "I paid for all this-how? Playing the stock market, of course..." page 90 are people still allowed to have "normal" jobs?

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    1. I think their idea of "normal" jobs is different than ours.

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  34. On page 91 the old man tells Montag "Go to the firehouse when its time. I'll be with you. Lets listen to this Captain Beatty together. He could be one of us." Should Montag listen to this old man?

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  35. Are these people more robot like than human like?

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    1. Do you mean mentally or physically?

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    2. I think that this book was in part meant to show how humans are on a downward spiral to becoming robots, and how robots are becoming more like us.

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  36. For people always watching T.V, what kinds of different shows go on that is so interesting that would a book wouldn't give?

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    1. Probably all kinds of shows like today but they never mention different channels so maybe its just one or two shows that everyone watches.

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  37. Does the Dover Beach poem represent the society's numbness to excitement. Just like the person in the poem doesn't get excited by the ocean any more, the people in F451 don't get excited from normal events any more.

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  38. I agree with Preston and graham about how we are glued to our phones, like people are glued to the TV in the book.

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  39. on page 97 Guy says " Damn It all, Damn it all, Damn it!"
    and one the ladys says " what've you got there; isn't that a book? I thought that all special training these days was done by film." Ms Phelps Blinked. " You Reading up on fireman theory." Why do you think Montag exploded like this?

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  40. Off alex's comment on t.v. in the book flashes subliminal messages isn't that no different from t.v. today.

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  41. how do you think our world will change throughout these next centuries if we have done so much in just our liftime.

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  42. With them being so brain washed how do people like montag have any type of different thought it it really mabey that they think they are brain washed so they really brain wash themselves

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