Monday, March 11, 2013

All Boys, All Blogged: March 12, 2013

Focus: What warning is Bradbury giving us about our present and our future?

Max's speech?

1. Proving to Ms. Leclaire that you're actually reading F451 by achieving excellence on your reading quiz!

2. Fishbowl Discussion: Pages 102 to 139 in F451.

HW: Bring F451 and your annotations through page 139 to class on Friday (there will be an annotation check).  Remember that late annotations can only receive a maximum of half credit--DON'T LET THAT BE YOU!

56 comments:

  1. What does the chapter two title, "The Sieve and the Sand," represent?

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    1. In Greek Mythology, a woman who killed her sons and daughters was condemned to fill a tub with sand, and the only thing she could use was a sieve. Once she filled the tub with sand, she could escape eternal damnation. But of course the sand would only fall out through the holes in the sieve, so she could never escape it. I think that in F451, Montag is starting to realize that the job he wants to do, which is rid society of it's ignorance, is like the sand and the sieve: hopeless.

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  2. Why is the dog missing if the alarm doesn't sound until after he arrives?

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    1. I think the dog is missing to go to Farber house.

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  3. What is Mildred’s main concern as she runs out of the house?

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    1. I think Mildred's main concern is her safety, she will eventually go get remarried and just forget that Montag ever existed.

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    2. Her main concern is that she doesn't want to be tied with Montag and the book he has read and stole.

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    1. He killed Beatty.... That's sort of a crime.

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  6. Is it ironic that Montag, who is a fireman, finds his escape from the hound and the rest of the city in water? "Then, holding the suitcase, he walked out in the river until there was no bottom and he was swept away in the dark" (Bradbury 139).

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  7. If Mildred watched her husband being chased, do you think she would be worried about him for feel guilty?

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    1. I think there is a little bit of both. She would be worried because she does want him to get hurt and she would be guilty because of what he has done.

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  8. What feelings does Montag have about the burning house?

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    1. It's everything that he has worked for and he personally had to destroy it. I feel like that would make him very upset.

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  9. if media could brain wash how would they?

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    1. I think through the tv and internet since people are so addicted of them.

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    2. The same way media does today just how when you see a taco bell commercial you want to go yourself some taco bell. In the book they talk about how the flashing of the wall t.v. goes so fast that he is overwhelmed.

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    3. Media CAN brainwash, that's why Bradbury's society is so scary, because it actually holds water. In the late 1930's we all know that Hitler and the Nazis came to power in Germany. The rest of the world was disgusted by the crimes that Hitler committed, but the people of Germany did not know what was going on because they were basically brainwashed; by the media. The Nazis took control of the media, like the newspaper and radio, and broadcast things that were "government approved". The people of Germany did not know about the holocaust until after the war in Europe was over.

      That is just one example, by the way.

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  10. What he is saying is starting to sound like he wants us to be able to like defend ourselves and he may be predicting the future like maybe he actually thinks this will happen sometime in the actual future

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  11. Page 105, Montag gives Beaty the book, "He put his hand to one side, palm up, for a gift. Montag put a book in it." Why does it say he opens up for a gift? if it's just a book and he throws it away any way, why say it is a gift to him?

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  12. What form of writing is the author using when he says "Out of the helicopter glided something that was not machine, not animal, not dead, not alive, glowing with a pale green luminosity" - 135.
    -Matt Myers.

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  13. Why wouldn't Millie, guys wife, have betrayed him earlier when she first found out the books? And why wouldn't Beaty gone to guys house when he first got the call from Millies friends?

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  14. Why would the person Mildred told on Montag to, not think she was guilty too?

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  15. Faber and Montag's houses both have incinerator, do all houses have them? If so, why?

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  16. "Do they have book alarms like we have fire alarms?" - Alex Morris. No, earlier in the book they mentioned a robot or dog of some sorts that could sniff people out when they were suspected of having books or literature.
    -Matt Myers.

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  17. to tanners question about books getting made i tihnk they still make them in other countrys and there smuggled in like drugs are today

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  19. We connect this book a lot to the Cold War, but how is it similar to the Cold War in its international ways? It doesn't talk a lot about international conflict.

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    1. @Daylon S.
      Earlier in the book it mentioned how everyone around their nation was mad/hated them for taking all the resources and materials from other nations. I think this has international ties like the Cold War in some ways, but not all.
      -Matt Myers.

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    2. Ok thanks! That makes it a little more clear.

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  20. If houses are fireproof why does Beatty make him burn down his own house?

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    1. Mildred ran away to stay away from Montag and his books.

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  22. How does the Mechanical Hound keep coming into play in this book what does the robot dog symbolize?

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  23. Was Mildred turning in Montag a sign that there is no love what so ever to have between them?

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  24. While Montag was in flight from the scene of Beatty’s murder, what thought occurred to him about Beatty?

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  26. How long was it that Montag was collecting books? Is there an underground book trade where they can get them?

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  27. "Because of the Hounds!" Pg.116 First, like robots, does the hounds get effected by water? And are their real dogs that they have to hunt people down?

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  28. On page 116 Beatty says, "'I want you to do this all on your lonesome, Montag. Not with kerosene and a match, but piece-work, with a flame thrower. Your house, your clean up.'" Why does Beatty want Montag to burn his own house with a flame thrower instead of doing it the normal way?

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    1. I think that Beatty wants to have Montag burn the house with a flamethrower just because you have to physically be there to use a flamethrower, but not with a match and kerosene.

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  29. Are there no driving rules or laws?

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    1. Probably because most of the society does nothing except watch TV.

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  30. Do you feel as if Beatty wanted to die when he got lit on fire? Why would he want to die?

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    1. He could no longer put up with the society they were in.

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  31. page 101," go home and think of the dozen abortions you've had." Why does he say such mean things to a women?

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  32. For all the fire proof houses, Did they have to destroy and rebuilt all of the houses to be fire proof?

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  33. On page 117 it says, "The house fell in red coal and black ash." I thought that houses were now fireproof. Why did the house burn?

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    1. Maybe some are and some aren't. It would be hard to rebuild every house as a fireproof one so it might be cost-effective to wait for the houses to burn down before rebuilding them as a fireproof house.

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    2. They put an adget on the house so it will burn

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  34. On page 124, "yes, he though, where am i running?"vother than faber's house where else COULD he go?

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  35. Why would they fireproof the houses if it's the duty of a whole section of men to burn them down?

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  36. And fire will lift you off my shoulders, clean, quick, sure; nothing to rot later. pg 115 do you think the author is geting at something more?

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  37. On page 113 it says "Old montag you wanted to fly near the sun and now hes burnt his damn wings, he wonders why. Does he mean Montag was pushing it taking books home but now he crossed the line?

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  38. What do you think the author wants us to think about Beatty in this part of the reading?

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