Monday, October 22, 2012

All Boys, All Blogged: October 23, 2012

Welcome to our first daily agenda on the blog!

Focus: Now that Amir has taken "the red pill," is there a way to be good again?  A close look at Chapters 22 and 23 in The Kite Runner

1. Warm-up: Find one phrase or short sentence from Chapter 22 or 23 that illustrates an important moment in Amir's (heroic?) journey.  As you listen to your classmates read their phrases aloud, what new picture do we form of Amir?  How has he changed, and why?

2. Kite Runner Fishbowl Discussion #7: Chapters 22 and 23 (please post your blog responses underneath today's agenda).

3. Wrap-up: Take-away's from today's discussion

Homework: Read and annotate Chapter 24 of The Kite Runner for tomorrow's discussion.  Also, please read the overview of your independent reading project and come in prepared with any questions you have.  Lastly, while SAT vocabulary cards are no longer required, I strongly suggest making them for List 6.


84 comments:

  1. On page 291 why is Sohrab saying saying "PUT IT DOWN!"? Why "IT"?

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    1. The reason why he said "it" was because he was describing something that didn't deserve a description or a name it was just something of violence.

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    2. I agree with josh because the description of the item was not worth describing.

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    1. I think that Amir will decide that he is worth taking home back to America to offer Sohrab a better life

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    2. I think Amir will decide that he has to do what is right and become good again. That must include taking Sohrab under his wing and adopt him.

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    3. I have a feeling that Amir will end up adopting him for Hassan. He will take the youngling to America where he will live a joyful life.

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    4. I think that Amir will take Sohrab for the memory of Hassan.

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    5. I think Amir is going to keep him because he wants to help Sohrab unlike he did with Hassan.

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    1. I think so because Amir will keep him in memory of Hassan.

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  4. What was significant about the table in Assef's house? Why did the author mention that Amir had seen it before?

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    1. I think that the Amir thinks about this because like it said in the book he wanted something to keep his mind busy. But i also think that it was included because it shows the taliban has men in peshawar.

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    2. I think it was a way to hint to past memorys and it was also very important in putting assef down since Sorhab used one of the balls to put out his eye

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  6. on page 297."The impact had cut your lip in two." Does this symbolize that Amir is now becoming Hassan?

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    1. I think it is connecting him to Hassan because the cut lip is like Hassan's cleft/Hair lip.

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    2. I do think it means he is becoming Amir but he is finally getting a understanding of what his friend, his best friend, had lived with and through his hole life. It was important to truly complete the circle.

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  7. On page 289, "Did you feel better?""I had not felt better, not at all. But I did now". Why does Amir say that he is happy when he is broken?

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    1. He finally felt he has a repayed Hassan for all the grief he caused him.

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    2. He is happy he can finally forgive himself for letting Assef rape Hassan.

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  8. If Amir didn't treat Hassan so badly as a kid would Amir still feel as obligated to save Sohrab?

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    1. I think he would be equally obligated because now he has to repay HAssan but had he not been mean to Hassan he would be a loyal friend and take Sohrab into his care.

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    2. I think Amir would still take Sohrab, but for a different reason. I think now he is taking Sohrab because he is helping Sohrab from Assef unlike helping Hassan with Assef. If Amir would have done something and treated Hassan better, Amir would keep Sohrab in memory of Hassan.

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    3. Of course Tanner, if anything he would feel more obligated to save Sohrab because they would have been much closer friends ans there for take care of his kid.

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    4. Yes because he is like family. Later he finds out that they are family which would make him want to even more.

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  9. Why did Assef let Sorhab have a sling shot.

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    1. It is said that "Sorhab always had it, tucked in his waste." It was also the last physical memory he had from his father. It was very important and he would never let it be taken away from him.

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  10. Do you think that in some way Amir was happy that it was Assef rather then somebody he didn't know?

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    1. I think he is happy that it was Assef because Assef was the one who was cruel to Hassan so in an act to repay Hassan, Amir had to be attacked by Assef.

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    2. Yes because this is what should have happened in the alley and this shows that Amir is ready to stand up and fight.

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    3. I think that Amir was really shocked that it was Assef. If it had not been him I think that it would have turned out much differantly.

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  11. When Sohrab shoots Assefs eye out is this him falling into Hassans legacy?

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    1. I think that it is him following his legacy because when Hassan was little he said that he would shoot his eye out and his son finally followed through

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    2. I think it is Hassan's revenge against Assef for the horrible deeds he committed.

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  12. When Amir starts laughing do you think that he is mocking Assef?

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    1. He is not mocking Assef he is laughing because he can forgive himself for his past.

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    2. I think it's another little sign of Amir standing up for himself. Usually when you laugh at someone beating you up, they beat you more. This showed how Amir wasn't afraid anymore.

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  13. What would have ended up happening to Sohrab if he didn't save Amir?

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    1. Amir would probably still be attacked but would have still got away.

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  14. @Sam I think this means that Amir finally knows what it feels to be like Hassan.

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  15. Has anyone forgiven Amir? Why or why not?

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    1. I don't think he can be totally forgiven because he let terrible things happen.

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    2. I have almost forgiven Amir. I think he still has to prove himslef one more time.

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    3. No because any good hearted person wouldn't of let this whole fiasco happen in the first place.

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    4. I have because he was broken and now he has began to heal. Like when he talked about how he hadn't felt good since his childhood

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  16. Sorahb and Haasan have both saved Amir from Assef using a slingshot.

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    1. Could the slingshot symbolize something? Could it even be the same one past down?

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    2. I also think it is weird how a similar event has happened twice.

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  17. Who is the bear Amir is fighting in his dream?

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    1. He talked about how Baba fought a bear and I also think the bear represented all of the troubles and fears in Amir's life that he finally needs to fight off.

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    2. The bear is the thing that Baba happens to fight in the beginning of the book.

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    3. It is probably the struggles of his life and trying to fight back from the hypothetical 'bear' or burden of the bad events in his past.

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    4. He is fighting the bear of his past just like baba fought a real bear and I think this shows how Amir and Baba are not too far apart now.

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    5. I think that the bear is almost the "red pill" for Amir; it is/was his chance to become a man and transform from his past of cowardice.

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  18. If Amir was Raped like Hassan instead of being hit then would Amir still feel healed or relived?

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    1. I think then he would finally understand what Hassan felt after Hassan got raped.

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    2. I think so because he is trying to be redeemed through suffering.

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    3. I don't think that it would have been a good thing if Amir got raped because they are both grown men.

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  19. Is the man watching Amir in the hospital part of the Taliban?

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    1. I don't think it is a man from the Taliban maby just a mental heath patient. But Amir imagination runs away with him.

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  20. "Let's just say we both got what we deserved." (page 298). Why do you think that Amir uses this to describe what happened? Do you think that Amir deserved to get beat by Assef?

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    1. I think Amir thought he deserved to be beaten by someone not specifically Assef, but someone.

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    2. I think Amir wants to be beat by Assef because he knows he deserves punishment for all the things he did.

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  21. On page 300, when the book says, "I didn't know what else to say to him "You want it?" He shook his head. "Do you want to talk?" he shook his head again." Why is Sohrab so afraid of Amir? He just saw Amir risk his life, and put his body directly in harms way just to save him. I understand that he was abused and very distrustful of adults, but why would be be so afraid of the person who just saved him?

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    1. He probaby was just scared and shocked from the recent events.

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    2. I thinks it's partially because Sohrab doesn't really now who Amir is. If someone I didn't know came and saved me, I wouldn't trust them too much until I knew who they were.

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    3. I think that Sohrab is afraid of Amir because he is so young that he is probably traumatized by the look of Amir and the experience as a whole.

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  22. What would have happened to Amir if he had not meet with Assef but someone else in the Taliban?

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    1. He probably wouldn't' have the same feeling but if this other guy beat Amir up he would still feel free for saving or trying to save Hassan's son.

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    2. I think that Amir would have been more scared because although Assef is a terrible person at least Amir knows kind of what to expect and what Assef is capable of, whereas if it was a random Talib Amir would have no idea what was going to happen to him.

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    3. I think that person would have just killed Amir and Sohrab if Amir laughed at him at all.

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  23. Does Amir's dream of Assef in the doorway show that Amir's guilt is not over even when he said in chapter 22 that he felt "healed"?

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    1. I think the beating "healed" Amir because of the pain he caused other by beating

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  24. Before the book do you think deep down Amir was hoping for a chance to redeem himself for his actions to Hassan?

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    1. I think that Amir really wanted to redeem himself with Hassan. But with Hassan son the only way he can redeem himself is by being his guardian.

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    2. Anyone would want redemption for something that scaring to their life.

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  25. During the fight scene, Amir is defenseless to Assef and Sohrab has the courage to step in and save him. This seems similar to when Hassan was being raped by Assef and Amir chooses not to step in. For this reason, I wonder what would have happened if Amir had been the one being beaten and raped in that alleyway. Would Hassan have stepped in or would he have just let it happen?

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  26. Why did the manager emphasize so much that nobody in the book touched the money?

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  27. After reading these chapters it really had me thinking about Amir's ability to stand up for himself. With Amir getting beat up did it "knock some sense into him"? And what I mean by that is did him getting beat up make him realize that he needs to stand up for himself and others? Because if I was Amir it would be sort of a wake up call and I would also look at it as karma for not doing something about Hassan getting raped in the ally. I also like what Ryan thought and that was what would have happened if Amir had been the one being beaten and raped in that alleyway. Would Hassan have stepped in or would he have just let it happen? That makes me really want to know the answer to that question.

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